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Re: I'm back on a Honda.
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2017, 01:33:12 pm »
I thought it went:  Sport bike -> touring -> super moto -> touring -> sport bike

and in the middle, you bought another copy of your original sport bike, a separate dirt bike, and an rx-7. :lol:

I think it went: standard - sport bike - sport touring - dirt bike/sumo - sport touring - sport bike
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Re: I'm back on a Honda.
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2017, 02:55:51 pm »
The good news is that you almost made it a month into your 2017 goal!

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Re: I'm back on a Honda.
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2017, 03:18:11 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2017, 03:36:52 pm »
:lol:

I had such high hopes for myself too.
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2017, 03:47:09 pm »
Well, I thought those were all just old man couch bikes. I guess my definition of "sport touring" is wrong. :lol:

I always though of sporty bikes with handlebars (FZ1, VFR, Ninja 1k, GSXS1000F, etc) or these newer "adventure" bikes that can't actually go off road (FJ-09, S1000XR, Multistrada) as sport tourers.

So what's a full on touring bike, then, other than a Goldwing?

These days, there is a lot of blurring of lines.  The advent of the repli-racer in the 90s kind of redefined sportbikes such that machines that used to be sportbikes now started to fall under the "sport touring" category because they were more comfortable than the new age "sportbike".  I'd consider an N1K or VFR to be sportbikes that, when fitted with luggage, can also do light sport-touring duty (specifically 1-up sport touring, they are too small to really do 2-up touring).  The FZ1 is a sporty standard that can also be re-purposed to do some light sport touring.  Multistrada would probably fall in a similar category, as would the FJ-09, Versys, and S1000X and the other non-off-road capable bikes trying to visually invoke the off-road capability of adventure bikes.  Adventure bikes are a combination of a light touring/ST machine (fitted with hard bags) and a dual sport.  I don't consider something that can't go off-road an Adventure bike.  Proper sport touring bikes can do 2-up distance riding (meaning significant luggage space and a large enough seat to be reasonably comfy for two for prolonged periods) but are faster and handle better than just touring bikes.  Touring bikes put an emphasis on comfort and are set up for going on very long, multi-day rides.
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Re: I'm back on a Honda.
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2017, 05:04:57 pm »
I've wanted a 954 for the past 2 years almost so I had to go see it at least.
IIRC I offered to sell you a 954 a couple years ago dammit!!!!!!!!!!! :rage:
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2017, 05:06:17 pm »
Im gonna get shit for this but I can see the value of getting something right out of the box. Im sure he could get the FZ1 where he wanted, but why? For my next bike I don't want a project either. It should and can be great out of the box
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2017, 05:11:47 pm »
No one is questioning whether he wants something great out of the box. Everyone is just wondering how many boxes rags is going to open :lol:
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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2017, 05:19:16 pm »
Im gonna get shit for this but I can see the value of getting something right out of the box. Im sure he could get the FZ1 where he wanted, but why? For my next bike I don't want a project either. It should and can be great out of the box
Well Rags bought a bike that needs some work, so it's still a project :lol:
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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2017, 05:24:06 pm »
Well Rags bought a bike that needs some work, so it's still a project :lol:


Eh, fleabay + some tinkering and elbow grease will have this thing far more dialed in for far cheaper than if I had tried to get the FZ1 where I want.

$1k into this thing and it'll be perfect. $1k would get me just an exhaust for the FZ1. I'd still be stuck with a twitchy throttle, crappy suspension and overweight chassis. I can fix the rear wheel, get new wheel bearings, clutch/cable/lever, exhaust, etc for that and have a clean, solid running bike.

The suspension and motor on this thing is dialed. The shop I bought it from is a suspension shop so they took everything apart and rebuilt it, and it's set up for pretty close to my weight so it already feels much, much better than the FZ1.
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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2017, 06:44:30 pm »
IIRC I offered to sell you a 954 a couple years ago dammit!!!!!!!!!!! :rage:

Bruh you live in Ohio.

Also a couple years ago I would not have been fit to ride a liter bike. Hell I probably shouldn't be on one now. :lol:
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2017, 07:50:44 pm »
Bruh you live in Ohio.

Also a couple years ago I would not have been fit to ride a liter bike. Hell I probably shouldn't be on one now. :lol:
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2017, 12:19:13 pm »
So, I know it's kind of too early to post riding impressions, but just commuting to and from work, it's amazing how much this thing feels like my old F4i. It's as if I never sold that bike.

Obviously I don't have a ton of experience with a bunch of different bikes but so far in my riding career, I'd have to say the early 2000's Honda sport bikes are my favorite. They are modern enough to not have to deal with carbs or chokes, but still extremely raw and visceral. There's some weird intangible feel about riding one... I didn't get the same feeling from riding my friend's 2011 CBR1000RR, though.
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2017, 01:06:48 pm »
I think some of them still have carbs. At least I think the Superhawk does
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2017, 01:12:25 pm »
I think some of them still have carbs. At least I think the Superhawk does

Superhawk was a 90s era bike that lived on into the early 2000s with minimal updates.
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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2017, 01:31:14 pm »
Yeah, no thanks on the SuperHawk. If I wanted a big Honda twin I'd get an RC51.

Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, the '04 CBR1K gained 40-50 lb over the 954?! How is that even possible?

The internets says the 1k did gain some weight but I'm not sure exactly how much.
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Re: I'm back on a Honda.
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2017, 01:35:26 pm »
Yeah, no thanks on the SuperHawk. If I wanted a big Honda twin I'd get an RC51.

Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, the '04 CBR1K gained 40-50 lb over the 954?! How is that even possible?

The internets says the 1k did gain some weight but I'm not sure exactly how much.

Likely a difference between dry, curb, and wet weights.  Bike companies haven't been consistent.  The latest trend for the most bikes is full wet (all fluids and a full tank of gas).  In the past they would cite weight with all fluids except fuel, or dry weight.
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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2017, 01:39:01 pm »
Likely a difference between dry, curb, and wet weights.  Bike companies haven't been consistent.  The latest trend for the most bikes is full wet (all fluids and a full tank of gas).  In the past they would cite weight with all fluids except fuel, or dry weight.

That's probably it. Wikipedia says the 954 is 370 lb dry, while the '04 1000 is 430lb dry. I'm seeing 400 dry and 425-430 wet elsewhere.

Either way, the bike feels far more nimble and light than the FZ1, even with clipons.
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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2017, 01:55:55 pm »
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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2017, 02:04:44 pm »
I know you will want it eventually. Only weighs 799 pounds!



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« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2017, 02:05:31 pm »
I know you will want it eventually. Only weighs 799 pounds!

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« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2017, 02:06:41 pm »
Dry or wet? :devil:

Does it really make any difference?  :lol:

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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2017, 02:08:34 pm »
Dry or wet? :devil:

Dry.  They're like 850-900 wet, depending on options.  Also eerily light on their feet once underway for something that weighs half a ton with rider.  Drop into corners better than any cruiser I've ridden, including Sportsters.
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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2017, 02:31:52 pm »
As I've said before, I'd rather ride bitch on a Goldwing than actually ride it. Damn thing is like a lazy boy.

I would have loved to see the country as a kid on the back of a Goldwing. That seems epic.
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2017, 02:48:05 pm »
Plus, that flat 6 would sound cool if anybody actually made a nice exhaust system for it.  ;)

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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2017, 03:00:42 pm »
I want to get a late 70s naked Goldwing and strip some weight off it. Not full cafe racer or anything, but a nice naked 6 cyl would be dope.
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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2017, 03:01:53 pm »
I want to get a late 70s naked Goldwing and strip some weight off it. Not full cafe racer or anything, but a nice naked 6 cyl would be dope.

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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2017, 03:28:41 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2017, 04:09:07 pm »
That cafe'd Goldwing is not my style at all but I guess it's cool? :huh:
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« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2017, 04:21:34 pm »
I want to get a late 70s naked Goldwing and strip some weight off it. Not full cafe racer or anything, but a nice naked 6 cyl would be dope.

Old ones are 4 cyl, eh?
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