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2012+ Civic Si
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E90 335i
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G35/G37 6MT sedan
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Fuck it :huh: Built R18 + turbo kit + drive Demon Civic into a pile of ashes
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$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« on: September 04, 2016, 02:20:39 pm »
You know the scenario. I'm thinking next year will be it. What would you do?

Main priority is reliability... a factory warranty would be a huge plus.
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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 02:43:45 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 03:12:35 pm »
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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 03:36:36 pm »
A built R18 is a waste of time.

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 03:50:09 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 04:26:01 pm »
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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 04:36:03 pm »
was almost gonna vote Focus ST but I know you (as well as I) like your 6's.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 04:51:56 pm »
...OR, this might be $20k next year, if DC isn't too far of a drive for you  :lol:

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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2016, 04:53:42 pm »
E9x will be off warranty and I don't trust a turbo BMW to run hassle-free.

The new Si, IMO, has more power than FWD can really effectively put down without ruining other aspects of the car.

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 04:59:14 pm »
E9x will be off warranty and I don't trust a turbo BMW to run hassle-free.

The new Si, IMO, has more power than FWD can really effectively put down without ruining other aspects of the car.


So you put the Focus St infront of it, which has more power?  At least the Si has a LSD
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 05:17:51 pm »
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A built R18 is a waste of time.
The engine can take it.... problem comes with cooling, A/C, brakes etc......

Is something like a G or IS350 a lot worse with automatic? I know the IS is automatic only but I'm feeling like I can push the gulf between the car and bike even further than it is now if the car can get out of its own way and sounds good. I drove a lot of manual/auto FM cars and a few auto 335is.... was not crazy about the auto 335i, but high key the stick in the Gs is not good; I'm feeling like the 7AT could be the better choice.

So you put the Focus St infront of it, which has more power?  At least the Si has a LSD
Yea I didn't get that either; CSi is the only sport compact I can afford that has a God honest mechanical LSD and it's not much slower if at all than the FoST. Only thing I don't like about it is road noise and the fact that they managed to make it even uglier inside than my car. It would have to be an incredible drive to make up for that dash
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2016, 05:20:08 pm »
Focus ST seems like the obvious choice.

I think I'm getting old - I'd rather leave a car stock than mod one. Unless you spend the time/money for a full build.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2016, 05:37:50 pm »
You know you want the ST so just go out and get it.  Not quite a hooligan, but close enough. :ohyeah:
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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2016, 05:58:23 pm »
So you put the Focus St infront of it, which has more power?  At least the Si has a LSD

I misread which Si.  Thought it was the upcoming turbo one, not the later NA ones.  Yeah, the NA one is more manageable.  That said, Honda screwed up when the switched to the 2.4.  the gearing doesn't complement the motor.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2016, 06:05:09 pm »
Yea I would rather pony up to the GTI or go with the 9th gen. New Civic is truly ghastly. Wacky gearing can be fixed somewhat easily. Focus ST looks good on paper... but the E-diff is complete bullshit.

The IS350 though :hmm: 13 second quarter mile out of the box
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2016, 06:13:58 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2016, 06:32:34 pm »
340i rwd?
With the Track package.... I'm def mulling over it, not a bad reason to liquidate the 401K.
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Re: $20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2016, 06:39:35 pm »
I may be biased here, but the '13 Si is the one to get.  The 12's are ugly and the interior is absolute horseshit, while the 14's and up have Honda's annoying touchscreen and ricer supreme rims.  The K24 is a good motor, and you can get 230hp out of those things with just a downpipe, tune, and CAI.  Some simple suspension work, people swear by Koni yellows and the 22/24 mm rear sway bars, and you have a quick DD that's also decent for AutoX.  Only downside is that that car is still expensive, like 17-20k expensive which I don't get at all.  Its a weird tweener in the performance compact sphere that doesn't excel at anything, so not sure why it maintains its value that well.

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2016, 06:39:38 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2016, 07:06:55 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2016, 07:32:40 pm »
My hate for the Z started when I had to commute in it. The road noise  :banghead: Any sedan would be better
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2016, 01:14:04 am »
G sedan for sure.

Although I think  K20Z1 in Civic would be awesome. :devil:
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2016, 02:03:37 am »
G sedan for sure.

Although I think  K20Z1 in Civic would be awesome. :devil:

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2016, 05:17:06 am »
K20 would be awesome in something a lot lighter than 2900 lbs. It's out of its depth in this chassis. K24 could work. Cheaper, more torque, easier to find.... I'll look into it
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2016, 09:52:17 am »
My hate for the Z started when I had to commute in it. The road noise  :banghead: Any sedan would be better
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2016, 10:03:09 am »
You like to tune. A 335i can't be beat. It's also so common that repairs when needed are fast and not that expensive.
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2016, 04:29:25 pm »
I don't want to deal with repairs at all if I don't have to. I was kind of half joking about the IS350 but the more I look into it :hmm: Regardless of anything I still have the bike, but it's still an IS, not an ES. It will run solid past 200K too so getting one with miles is no biggie. Something more raw and stickshift would be nice but I'm definitely throwing it in the mix
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2016, 04:33:36 pm »
The IS is so dull but I guess the upgraded ML stereo is nice and seats are comfortable :huh:
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2016, 05:00:22 pm »
I don't want to deal with repairs at all if I don't have to. I was kind of half joking about the IS350 but the more I look into it :hmm: Regardless of anything I still have the bike, but it's still an IS, not an ES. It will run solid past 200K too so getting one with miles is no biggie. Something more raw and stickshift would be nice but I'm definitely throwing it in the mix

So you like the IS350 but want something more raw.....if only Lexus made such a thing......

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