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Re: WR250X
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2016, 10:54:52 am »
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2016, 11:03:38 am »
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2016, 11:10:21 am »
I just wanna do hoodrat shit wit my friends

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2016, 08:23:38 pm »
Wat Rags should've bought for SM:



Why, so the engine could explode before I even get to the first valve check on the WR? :devil: :lol:

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2016, 08:24:31 pm »
That's such a good lookin bike.

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2016, 08:33:30 pm »
Thanks! I really like the Acerbis front end the previous owner put on.

Also, the bike and its controls are so light I can pull the clutch in with my still weak left hand. If I had the gear and wouldn't get in trouble I'd go ride it now. :lol:
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2016, 10:31:36 pm »
Hell yeah. Most dirtbike controls I've experienced are fairly light, especially on smaller bikes. Only tough ones I've run into is my buddy's '94 KX500...but those probably haven't been replaced or lubed in years.  :lol:
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2016, 10:50:40 pm »
I can tell 1 finger clutch up wheelies will be easy... at least the clutch up part. :lol:


Also, the throttle response on it feels so good. Just the way the motor revs when you give it some gas feels just right (sounds weird, I know).
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2016, 11:00:55 pm »
Yeah, I'm usually running one or two fingers on the clutch. One finger is plenty for tricky climbs.  Can fully engage/disengage.  I prefer two if I'm blasting faster on more open trails, but one finger is super nice in technical sections where you wanna have good grip on the bars.  Plus you can just powershift on the ups, so... :rockon:

Is that motor FI?

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2016, 11:05:46 pm »
Yeah, I'm usually running one or two fingers on the clutch. One finger is plenty for tricky climbs.  Can fully engage/disengage.  I prefer two if I'm blasting faster on more open trails, but one finger is super nice in technical sections where you wanna have good grip on the bars.  Plus you can just powershift on the ups, so... :rockon:

Is that motor FI?

Yeah, having the grip is nice. I'm used to three finger clutching on the FJ and other street bikes so it'll be a change for sure.

I can't even pull the clutch in on the FJ since it's so freaking heavy compared to the dainty WR. :lol:

Also, yeah it's FI and a 6 speed. I think it's the only supermoto with FI and a 6 speed that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and isn't a maintenance nightmare (KTM...). Valve adjustments are every 26k miles. :lol:
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2016, 11:09:00 pm »
Nice. I haven't experienced an FI motor between my legs yet. Hopefully next summer after an arm and a leg (...KTM). :lol:

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2016, 11:24:30 pm »
Or.... WR250R? :lol:


If you can swing a KTM and aren't scared off by its potential maintenance issues, I don't think the WR is even in the same region in terms of performance. I just value fun and reliability far more than outright performance.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2016, 11:41:29 pm »
I'd consider it, but if I can afford it, I really want a dedicated offroad/Enduro style bike for sure.  I heard the latest YZ250F off road (or whatever the non-MX version is) is pretty good, but I'd love to try a KTM.

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2016, 02:36:55 pm »
First mod ordered: CustomLED flasher unit.

The PO bought some nice LED turn signals, but didn't opt to buy the flasher unit to slow down the flashes. :facepalm:

Luckily it's plug and play so it's fine. What's not fine is  he also  decided  to not opt for the OEM connectors when he bought the light kit (I got his receipts) which means he more than likely just cut the stock wiring harness. :rage:

I need to take the lights apart and see how they're attached to the wiring harness. I might have to buy a couple of OEM connectors online as well and cut/solder them back on... sigh.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2016, 06:00:54 pm »
Also just ordered some turn signal mounts since the front signals are kind of crooked right now and just mounted into plastic, as well as some under bar mirrors (the guy didn't give me the stock mirrors and the mirror on there now is a bicycle mirror I think).
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2016, 01:49:07 am »
OK, thankfully the previous owner just cut the OEM turn signals off but left the connector attached to the main harness, so I didn't have to buy new connectors. He did a pretty crappy job, though. The front turn signals weren't even soldered and everything was just twisted and wrapped in electrical tape. I took all the tape off, soldered everything together and double heatshrinked the wires to make sure they'd be protected.

I still have to test everything but I'm pretty sure it's good to go.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2016, 05:23:37 am »
Not even crimped, just twisted? He liked to live on the wild side.
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2016, 12:49:27 pm »
Not even crimped, just twisted? He liked to live on the wild side.

Yeah, twisted and then electrical taped over. I just pulled them apart.

At least the rears had the bullet crimp connectors but I still removed those and soldered them.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2016, 12:18:52 pm »
So I just got insurance for the WR. I dropped collision (it's a dirt bike...) and got a $100 deductible on comprehensive, kept uninsured motorist coverage and upped liability to $100k (not sure how I'd do that much damage on a 27 HP bike, but still nice to have). Premium came out to $20/mo or $121/6 mo. :praise:

When the insurance agent applied the same coverages that the FJ has to the WR, minus collision, it came out to $12/mo so I decided to up the coverage a bit more.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2016, 12:21:53 pm »
Why drop collision if you're mostly gonna be running it on the street?  Or are you thinking of using this mostly off road once you get some raaaaamz & tires?

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« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2016, 12:31:33 pm »
Why drop collision if you're mostly gonna be running it on the street?  Or are you thinking of using this mostly off road once you get some raaaaamz & tires?

Because replacement plastics are like $300 max from Acerbis if I bin it. Plus it's a dirt bike. It's designed to be dropped and slid around. Adding collision would increase my premiums and leave me with a sizable deductible anyways. Hell, when I low sided the FJ, my deductible was $1k and I ended up buying all the parts for less than that, so I ended up not using it.

It's got 27 hp as well... hopefully I can control it and not run it into anything. :lol:
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2016, 12:33:41 pm »
True true.  They are definitely more attuned to being dumped and doing minimal/no damage.  It seems to take a lot to really fuck up a dirt bike beyond snapping a lever or something.

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2016, 12:43:53 pm »
I didn't bother with collision either. Unless it's totaled, I'm gonna fix anything myself anyway. And if it's totalled, I'm just out of luck. :lol:
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« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2016, 02:34:13 pm »
I just rode the bike for the first time!

I'm in no way allowed to but I couldn't resist it. Hand is still pretty weak but it was strong enough to pull the very light clutch on the WR so I said fuck it and went anyways. The foot doctor said I was good to ride/drive so I just threw my boots on and it felt fine the whole ride.

The bike is SO much fun. I don't know if it's because I haven't ridden in a while but it definitely feels like it has way more than 27 hp. Or maybe I'm not used to the torque all being so down low in the RPM range. Either way it definitely has enough pick up around town. It only starts to really lose steam after 60 mph or so, but it still cruises at 60+ without a problem.

I can't get over how light this bike is. It just wants to fall into turns. I took a video of my maiden voyage on it but it's just a couple minutes of me going "hehehehehehe" the whole time so I don't think you guys would want to watch it. :lol:

Things that need to be addressed: suspension is way too soft, rear brake pedal is too high, and I still need to figure out the popping/backfiring thing. It sounds like the AIS thing that the FJ has, but sometimes it pops louder than the farting noise the FJ makes so I don't know what that's about. Also, while the motor was cold there was definitely a bit of stumbling going on down low. I should have let it warm up like I do normally, so that shouldn't really be a big issue.

Now the only question that remains is if I can stand riding it on the highway for any given amount of time. The engine itself is quite smooth but I'm more worried about ergos/wind protection/seat comfort. I'll address the seat soon with a Seat Concepts tall seat, and wind protection is similar to a naked bike (none), so I'm hoping it won't be too bad.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2016, 02:43:36 pm »
The problem with a light bike with poor aero is that you will get blown all over the road by crosswinds or from the wakes of passing/oncoming trucks.

And the suspension is supposed to be soft.  It's an off-road bike with over a foot of suspension travel front and rear.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2016, 02:49:47 pm »
The problem with a light bike with poor aero is that you will get blown all over the road by crosswinds or from the wakes of passing/oncoming trucks.

And the suspension is supposed to be soft.  It's an off-road bike with over a foot of suspension travel front and rear.

No, this is too soft, like bottom out all the time soft. It is sprung for a 140 lb rider, and the way the guy lowered the rear was to just take all the preload out so the shock just sags down. I need to crank up the preload to stiffen it back up and also get some ride height back (don't have a stand to adjust the forks though so I'm waiting till I can do that).

I'll try upping the preload and then maybe just get new springs if I need to. Again, soft is fine, but blowing through 10" of suspension soft is not fine.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2016, 03:18:32 pm »
Also, this might be just because it's the first time I've ridden it but I really like being able to rev out gears on city streets and not be doing a billion miles per hour. It's like a Miata. :lol:
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2016, 03:45:02 pm »
No, this is too soft, like bottom out all the time soft. It is sprung for a 140 lb rider, and the way the guy lowered the rear was to just take all the preload out so the shock just sags down. I need to crank up the preload to stiffen it back up and also get some ride height back (don't have a stand to adjust the forks though so I'm waiting till I can do that).

I'll try upping the preload and then maybe just get new springs if I need to. Again, soft is fine, but blowing through 10" of suspension soft is not fine.

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Re: WR250X
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2016, 03:50:33 pm »
Or, lose some weight fatty

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I don't plan on going back to being 140 lb any time soon. Hopefully around 180 would be good.
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Re: WR250X
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2016, 04:04:51 pm »
The problem with a light bike with poor aero is that you will get blown all over the road by crosswinds or from the wakes of passing/oncoming trucks.

Yup.  Unless you're on the gas, you're bound to get blown all over.  I'm guessing the WR weighs like 250lb?  My bike is 260ish plus fuel and whenever I have to ride on the shoulder or road between trails or something, I'm getting blown all over once I'm over 45-50 if there's a decent breeze. 

But yeah, 250s are light, flickable bikes. Crotch rockets don't quite have that same flick ability since they're designed more for longer, high speed corners. Dirtbikes are meant to do a 180-degree, 10' radius turn or dodge obstacle after obstacle with minimal effort.