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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2016, 06:17:39 pm »
What's the grease fitting for?
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2016, 06:34:00 pm »
The spring loaded thingamajig that twists
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2016, 06:38:12 pm »
This is the backside of the cover

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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2016, 07:27:57 pm »
Home Depot comin in clutch with all 3 bolt lengths. Socket caps instead of those godforsaken phillips ( :rage: )
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2016, 08:45:09 pm »
All that effort and it's just a little bit lighter. I can find neutral a bit easier, though.

In case anyone is wondering, there's a rod connected to the clutch that rests inside the spring loaded thingamajig. The spring loaded thingamajig moves inward when you pull the cable, pushing the rod inward and disengaging the clutch. So it's turning a cable pull into a simple sideways push. It took me a little too long to figure that out. :lol:
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2016, 09:20:45 pm »
Well, most bikes have wet clutches (Ducatis and MotoGP bikes come to mind as a few that do not). Most of the newer bikes I've seen have the twisty thingy sitting out in the open so swapping clutch cables is stupid easy.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2016, 06:25:05 pm »
The engine started revving very high on the way home last night. We're talking 5-6k rpm. I didn't have to use the throttle at all if I didn't want to. I'm guessing an intake boot o-ring is torn and causing a huge vacuum leak. Luckily they're like $4 + $3 shipping. The only fun part will be taking the carbs out.

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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2016, 07:46:10 pm »
Taking the carbs out is actually pretty easy. But the intake boots are held on with more phillips head screws that are tight AF. So I'll leave that pain until tomorrow. Should be able to use a cut off wheel to make a notch in the heads to get a flathead screw driver on them + pliers on the handle for leverage. And then they'll be replaced with stainless allen heads.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2016, 12:12:46 pm »
Good news! I only had to cut a notch in one of the bolts, the other 7 came off with a big Phillips head socket wrench. But they'll still get replaced (+ anti seize).

But I'm a bit puzzled, because the o-rings look fine and probably recently replaced. There was some dirt caked between the intake and head, but outside of the o-rings. Could be a clue that they weren't sealed tight enough even though they're in good condition?
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2016, 12:16:21 pm »
I know your bike is hella older than mine, but if I had to wrench on my bike this much I'd just get rid of it and get another one.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2016, 12:41:03 pm »
It's a good thing you don't use that thing to commute on or else you'd be fucked by now. :lol:
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2016, 12:53:30 pm »
I know your bike is hella older than mine, but if I had to wrench on my bike this much I'd just get rid of it and get another one.

This is super fun to wrench on. I enjoy it.

If a new bike needed as much help, I'd drop it in a heartbeat. Gotta have the charm to be enjoyable.

It's a good thing you don't use that thing to commute on or else you'd be fucked by now. :lol:

Both of my vehicles are sitting with their engines partially disassembled. :lol:
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2016, 01:02:22 pm »
This is super fun to wrench on. I enjoy it.

If a new bike needed as much help, I'd drop it in a heartbeat. Gotta have the charm to be enjoyable.

Both of my vehicles are sitting with their engines partially disassembled. :lol:

I mean I enjoy wrenching on cars occasionally, but actually being able to use it is usually much more enjoyable :lol:
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2016, 01:31:43 pm »
I could have kept riding it. It was actually pretty fun. Full throttle or nothing baby!
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #74 on: May 24, 2016, 01:34:38 pm »
Until just now, 4/5 vehicles in the driveway were out of commission. El Camino is awaiting a new engine, Camaro is on jackstands halfway through a Gear Vendors install, bike is taken apart, and my mom's Mazda6 needed a new ignition coil. The VW was the only complete car. :lol: Fixed the Mazda, now it's time to get the bike running.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2016, 03:38:44 pm »
Goddammit.

I was so stumped - pushing the throttle closed really hard would bring the revs down, but it wasn't the throttle cables because it still raced when I disconnected the cables. So I pulled off the top cover of the carb, thinking the throttle rod must be gummed up or something, only to find the adjuster screw on top of the needle jet was completely fallen off and just hanging out in the top of the carb, blocking the throttle from closing fully. :facepalm:

Should be all fixed now.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2016, 09:53:16 am »
Rode to Cars and Coffee today. Took the freeway there, since I was lazy and didn't roll out of bed very early and wanted to get there before all the Ferraris left. It does fine and has enough power to be in the left lane, but it's no fun. Too much wind and not the most stable. So on the way home I avoided the interstate and rode through the hills and next to the Ohio River. :wub:
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2016, 09:25:10 am »
Saw a gif of a cheap bar end mirror falling off a guys bike, so I went ahead and ordered the same pair for $12 :lol:

Put some loctite on the screw holding the ball socket to prevent any issues. Looks wise, its a lot cleaner and less cruiser-style. Mirror-wise, I can see more with just one mirror than I could with two stalk mirrors.



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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2016, 11:57:07 am »
Rode to Cars and Coffee today. Took the freeway there, since I was lazy and didn't roll out of bed very early and wanted to get there before all the Ferraris left. It does fine and has enough power to be in the left lane, but it's no fun. Too much wind and not the most stable. So on the way home I avoided the interstate and rode through the hills and next to the Ohio River. :wub:

Mine is stable to about 85 mph. I think the fairing helps.

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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #79 on: June 04, 2016, 12:14:24 pm »
I think about 75 is where I'll stop accelerating. Hard to tell since I'm sure the speedo is less and less accurate the faster you go.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #80 on: June 04, 2016, 12:27:28 pm »
Those old UJMs make slow feel fast.  Between the numbing vibration, flimsy chassis, and poor aero, 70 on my brother's '81 Yamaha feels like mach 1.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #82 on: June 05, 2016, 01:44:00 pm »
Uh.... seems kind of overkill to put a GSX-R front end on that bike...
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2016, 01:48:43 pm »
All the more reason to do it. :lol:

Add some Ohlins on the rear, build the engine, possibly brace the frame a bit. It'd be fun. It'd also be cheaper to just buy a FZ-07/9, but anyone can do that.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #84 on: June 05, 2016, 02:15:08 pm »
All the more reason to do it. :lol:

Add some Ohlins on the rear, build the engine, possibly brace the frame a bit. It'd be fun. It'd also be cheaper to just buy a FZ-07/9, but anyone can do that.

You're just going to end up with a floppy chassis with some nice parts on it for way too much money.

I would much rather get the FZ-09 and throw some money on suspension and just have fun with that. No matter what you do to your bike the FZ will still feel more modern, be faster, more reliable and still have resale value.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2016, 03:05:22 pm »
The build is half the fun
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #86 on: June 13, 2016, 04:46:15 pm »
Bike wouldn't downshift when I got to the stoplight to turn into a gas station on the way home. I was in 5th and was able to upshift into 6th, but not downshift. So I was stuck in 6th at a light waiting to turn left. Luckily it had enough grunt to get moving and I pulled into the station without any issues. One of the bolts from the clutch cover backed out and was blocking the shifter. :facepalm: I just took it out and will put it back in tonight. Was going to take all of those out anyway to put anti-seize on them.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2016, 06:30:58 pm »
My 2003 Gixxer used to do that! The bottom bolt in the Foot Peg would back out just enough to "seize" up the shifter!
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2016, 06:44:12 pm »
Bike wouldn't downshift when I got to the stoplight to turn into a gas station on the way home. I was in 5th and was able to upshift into 6th, but not downshift. So I was stuck in 6th at a light waiting to turn left. Luckily it had enough grunt to get moving and I pulled into the station without any issues. One of the bolts from the clutch cover backed out and was blocking the shifter. :facepalm: I just took it out and will put it back in tonight. Was going to take all of those out anyway to put anti-seize on them.

Better use loctite instead of anti-seize.
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Re: Black Betty
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2016, 05:44:19 am »
I think I'm about to go down the dreaded path of pods and 4-1 exhaust. I don't see why everyone has such a problem though. Carbs are simple machines.
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